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"Dual Unity" for Eastern Churches


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Constantinople, Jun. 19, 2008 (CWNews.com) - The Orthodox Patriarch of Constantinople has responded favorably to a suggestion by the head of the Ukrainian Catholic Church for a system of "dual unity" in which Byzantine Catholic churches would be in full communion with both Constantinople and Rome.

Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople welcomed the proposal in an interview with the magazine Cyril and Methodius, the RISU news service reports. The acknowledged leader of the Orthodox world suggested that the "dual unity" approach would produce something akin to the situation of the Christian world in the 1st millennium, before the split between Rome and Constantinople.




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Re: "Dual Unity" for Eastern Churches


I can only hope and pray it happens.

The Eastern Churches in communion with Rome are vital to total reunification.

The fears of Papal 'power' will vanish when, after reunification, the Patriarch of [fill in a name here] is selected to be Pope and - as a symbolic gesture of unity - the date of Easter is changed to follow the eastern calendar.

Let's see how much talk there is about 'dual unity' then!

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Re: "Dual Unity" for Eastern Churches


The russians are not going to share power in any way - it's their nature I fear , besides Rome is seen as weak from Moscow .
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Re: "Dual Unity" for Eastern Churches


Always has been seen that way. Stalin once famously asked how many divisions the Pope had.

Ironically, a politically strong, resurgent Russia is likely to work against any kind of reunification with the Western Churches If the patriarch wants a strong partner, he will look to Moscow, not to Rome.

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Hard choices - Russia or the Golden Horde .
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I will regret asking what a "Golden Horde" is. emoticon

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Horde
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Does it really matter how those not in communion with the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church view her?



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I understand the demographic threat of Muslims, but do you think they are organized enough to be called a new Golden Horde, like the Mongol tribes of earlier times?

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Re: "Dual Unity" for Eastern Churches


At the present nearly non-existant birth-replacement rate among Russians, there will be no Russia to turn to in 50 years...and Italy isnt much better.

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