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The forgotten war - Afghanistan


Winning hearts and minds ?

"Afghanistan's Epidemic of Child Rape"

", Sweeta's sister Saleha has given up on the government and is starting to wonder if the past seven years of foreign intervention have brought any progress at all to Afghanistan. "If the Taliban were still here, that rapist would have already been executed by now. It would have been a lesson for all," she says. "If there is no law, and the government does not listen to people's complaints, then it is better to go back to the Taliban era. At least then we had justice." "

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1833517,00.html?xid=feed-yahoo-world
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The U.S. military reportedly just murdered 90
Afganis in an indiscriminate bombing. We will be forced to leave
Afghanistan relatively soon too as we are no longer welcome there.

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Nothing by force, but everything by charity.

Ss. Thomas Aquinas and Augustine, pray for us.
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And the islamists are just sitting in the Pakistan tribal belt , funded by the ISI with the billions received from the US who are supposed to be used against them .

Instead of using India and sanctions to put pressure on Pakistan , and making a deal with both Russia and China to contain the islamists and inspect the nuclear weapons , they are copying the failures of Russia .

And once they call the Medevacs the jihadists will have both a strategic base and their first strategic victory . The winners - Iran , the Saudi proxies , the european jihadists .
And unlike Vietnam , the enemy does have a global agenda .

But of course , things get a little blurry when working for the oil lobby . The main problem is Saudi Arabia , not Pakistan or Iran .

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AD - Sen. Biden gave his Vice-Presidential nomination acceptance speech Wed evening and he emphasized that the terrorists are gaining strength along the Afghan-Pakistan border and that they are planning future attacks.
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Nord - don't you see the irony - sending your tax money to do battle against your tax money - in the tribal belt ?

But the main problem is the saudis who are making trouble for the chinese and russians as well . The chinese are expanding towards Africa , and they have the resources to change the Middle East Status quo .
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You know the irony - many Pashtuns opposed the Taliban's Shariah Islamic law as being too soft.
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AD - Let us see what Obama has to say about Afghanistan in his speech tonight......
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It does not matter Nord

An old proverb of them says "I against my brothers; my brothers and I against my cousins; my brothers, my cousins and I against the world."

Because a death must be avenged, killers (and their close relatives) are themselves under permanent threat. This restrains violence considerably. Until recently, homicide rates in these tribal regions were low in comparison to homicide rates in urban areas of the United States.

http://home.honolulu.hawaii.edu/~pine/Phil100/pashtun.htm
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AD - Their was a report on NBC News last night regarding the reent bombing that you referred to. A second investigation has now been demanded by the U.S. military and one by the Afghan govt as well. There is a discrepancy as to how many civilians were killed, the report said. The U.S. military thinks maybe 9, while the locals say 90. However, some in the U.S. military think that civilian bodies were buried in the rubble and not counted by the U.S. when they did their investigation. The report concluded by saying that the U.S. maybe losing the battle for the hearts and minds of the Afghan people.

When I saw the report last night, I recalled St. Augustine and his Just War doctrine and it's reference to limiting civilian casualties.......
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Nord,
Nine Americans is a massacre. Ninety Afghanis are collateral damage.

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Nothing by force, but everything by charity.

Ss. Thomas Aquinas and Augustine, pray for us.
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