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The USA is starting to pay for its sins


http://news.bostonherald.com/international/europe/view.bg?articleid=1000316

"Three Muslim brothers who allegedly helped plot to kill soldiers at a U.S. Army base have roots in one of Europe’s most pro-American corners - a region that remains grateful to the United States for ending the Kosovo war.
 
    Dritan Duka, 28, Shain Duka, 26, and Eljvir Duka, 23, who were arrested in New Jersey this week in what U.S. authorities said was a bungled scheme to blow up and gun down soldiers at Fort Dix, were born in Debar, a remote town on Macedonia’s rugged border with Serbia’s Kosovo province. "

I told you that dismembering orthodox Serbia and supporting muslims will have dire consequences - the conflict is about to reach the american mainland in the form of terrorism .

But even now the US government is fighting against christians in the Balkans - the awakening will be a rude one .
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Where are you from, Ad? In America we were given a one-sided view of the conflict in the Balkans. If you weren't here, you can't imagine the totality of the anti-Serb sentiment that was presented to the American people. I remember coming across a pro-Serb article in Chronicles back in '93 or '94, and how puzzling and dissonant I found it. It was the only pro-Serb piece I ever saw anywhere in the US media, and Chronicles was an obscure publication at that. Plus, it was full of language about Crusades and the defense of Europe, and it seemed alarmist and over-the-top to a comfortable suburban American. (Times have certainly changed.) I've never really investigated the conflict since, it seemed so distant and removed from our lives, but I don't doubt that the version presented in the American media contained an element of propanda. Any event presented in such simplistic terms is unlikely to be true, and Muslim extremism doesn't seem so distant anymore. It's hard, though, not to simply throw up one's hands when there is such brutality on both sides.

I'm curious: do you have any resources, any web links, that can give an American a fuller view of what happened there? My understanding of it is strongly colored by Christiane Amanpour 's hyperventilating reporting. I'm willing to learn more.

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I have relatives and I lived a hundred miles away - so just ask me - I'm better than any web link at describing that past .

Back to 1994 , already in Germany , I discussed the events with an old friend and we predicted all these horrors , the war with the muslims ad the decay of the west .
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Ad, as I admitted, I haven't studied this. I was happy when the Dayton Accords were pushed through and I went on with my blinkered life. I don't have the knowledge to formulate a tightly focused question, therefore. You might not see somebody admit this on the internet again, so, I don't know, commemorate it somehow. Some sort of history that you think is fair would help me to orient myself. I can stumble ahead in ignorance, though, with some very broad questions:

What do you consider to be the spark that began the violence in the Balkans?

Were there atrocities on both sides? How even did the atrocities run? Do charges of genocide against the Serbs hold any water?

What were and are the ultimate goals of the Muslim Bosnians? Were there a large number of foreign fighters who rallied to the Bosnian side? What, if any, atrocities did they commit? Were there any atrocities that were ignored in the US media?

What lessons can we in the US learn from the Balkans?

Sorry about the sweeping nature of these questions, but as I said, I don't have the understanding to formulate anything more specific.

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Sorry about the delay - I owe you all an answer , but please be patient with me , it's gonna take some time to tell all the details .

The violence in the Balkans started with the arrival of the muslims there over 600 yrs ago . The orthodox-catholic border was established , and with the exception of the eastern catholic rite in Romania and Ukraine , it has remained so to this day. The muslim arrival changed everything .

All sides were into atrocities , for the sake of survival - it was a total war against any living thing on the other side - like a bad day in the West Bank if you like .

The serbs were displaced from their homeland by the muslims centuries ago , and they were trying to take it back during the war .

The ultimate goal of the Muslims bosnians is to be part of a global caliphate , conquering Europe in the first stage like the muslims tried in the past at Tours or Vienna . The foreign fighters were simply jihadis paid with oil money .

The US is helping muslims in the Balkans in order to weaken Russia and the EU , but ironically because of their army they are seen as the ultimate target by the jihadis , not the peaceful EU . Russia , on the other side , is fighting a war of annihilation in Central Asia against an old enemy - they were conquered by muslim tatars once - the Golden Horde - and they don't want to repeat that .
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This is the key quote for me, Ad:

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The ultimate goal of the Muslims bosnians is to be part of a global caliphate , conquering Europe in the first stage like the muslims tried in the past at Tours or Vienna .



I'm interested in hearing more of your personal experiences and thoughts concerning this conflict. emoticon Feel free to expand and add whatever you think is important.
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I can only tell you that the "experience" will be shared with the USA - and I'm not smiling .
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We smile at those we mean well too, whatever the circumstances.
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I find it hard to smile when a genocide is brewing a hundred miles away from my birthplace .
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Ad, lets not have a disagreement over a smiley-face. I was not making light of the times, I was trying to signal friendliness towards you.

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