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In an age when people are naturally preoccupied with the coldly rational reality of a troubled economy, it is reassuring to know that the finer details of political theology are still subject to debate. According to a recent statement out of the Vatican, President Obama appears to have a passing interest in medieval gnosticism. Father Raniero Cantalamessa, a preacher to the Pontifical Household, has stated that the president referred to Joachim of Fiore (1135-1202) at least three times in his speeches during his election campaign. This Cistercian abbot with a heretical reputation was praised by Obama as a “master of contemporary civilization” who sought to create a better world.

What is the significance of this controversial figure from the late Middle Ages? Joachim applied the symbol of the Trinity to the course of history, based on his reading of the Book of Revelation. The history of humanity, in his view, had three periods corresponding to the three persons of the Trinity. Each age began with a leading spiritual figure. The first period was the age of the Father; the second commenced with the appearance of the Son (Christ); the third was the age of the Spirit. This final age, whose beginning Joachim dated at 1260 AD (again, based on the Book of Revelation), was the most important. In this age a new church free of dogmas and hierarchies would appear as the prime instrument for true spiritual fulfillment. In this end-time, infidels and Christians would join together to forge a new era of peace on earth. This eschatology, which completely collapsed the Augustinian tension between the City of God and the City of Man, prophesied a new and certain direction for History. Sadly for his legacy, Joachim’s elaborate system of thought later brought down on him negative reviews from such distinguished figures as St. Thomas Aquinas and Pope Alexander IV. Apparently, the Cistercian’s theology, which promised a grandiose end for all of humanity in History, was deemed a tad heretical and idolatrous.

While evidence of references to Joachim in the president’s speeches is scanty at best, it may not be that bizarre to find Obama taking an interest in a relatively obscure medieval historiographer. There has already been some anxious discussion among prominent neoconservatives and liberals over the impact of Obama’s rise to the presidency on the political theology of our time. Additionally, the infidel-friendly and dogma-free church which Joachim favored in the Third Age has an eerie resemblance to the sort of pseudo-Christianity which our “tolerant” and “sensitive” age enthusiastically embraces.

Still, Joachim is a rather exotic choice for one’s ideological pedigree. Anyone familiar with the political philosophy of Eric Voegelin is aware of his positioning of Joachim as a forerunner of the totalitarian political religions of the twentieth century. Voegelin went so far as to portray Joachim as a “gnostic” who was determined to re-divinize the cosmos, or confuse the authority of God with the idolization of human power. While I am not convinced that one can draw a straight historical line between Joachim and Stalin, it is undeniable that his metaphysics of History shares some family resemblances with the most vulgar versions of the idea of progress in modern thought.

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You are giving too much importance to this uruk-hai .
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He is the hammer that is smashing what remains of America to bits.

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He is just another flagellum dei - America is crumbling with or without him . Get out of this modern-day Sodom while you still can .
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And go to the modern day Sodom of Europe?

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The Balkans are different - the perfect purgatory for these troubled days .
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Ah. But the Turk. He is scheming gathering his forces.

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Au contraire , this is the perfect opportunity to take back Constantinople and Asia Minor - this time the corrupted west will not rescue the sick man of Europe . And as a bonus people will be cleansed by fire , and only the wheat will remain .

Of course the half-orc is trying to get Turkey inside the EU , this time without gunpowder . Your government is doing a pretty good job at terminating christians by proxy I might add, but we already know the end result . People can repent at any time , with sackcloth and ashes - and that's fair enough.

Luke 3:17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.
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Take back Constantinople? Only if brimstone leaves it empty.

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"He is the hammer that is smashing what remains of America to bits."

Are most americans into S/M lately ?

"AP Poll: Americans high on Obama, direction of US"

"WASHINGTON – For the first time in years, more Americans than not say the country is headed in the right direction, a sign that Barack Obama has used the first 100 days of his presidency to lift the public's mood and inspire hopes for a brighter future."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090423/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama100_days_ap_poll_8
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