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Is Catholicism Now 'Unacceptable'?


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Is Catholicism Now 'Unacceptable'?

by Patrick J. Buchanan
Posted Jun 20, 2006

On the political roundtable "21 This Week," on Maryland's tiny Access Montgomery cable channel 21, Robert J. Smith has been a regular panelist. Introduced as a "Republican activist," Smith was also Gov. Robert Ehrlich's appointee on the Metro Transit Authority board.

No more. Smith has been fired for remarks that the GOP governor considers "inappropriate, insensitive and unacceptable." What did Smith say? Did he cut loose into some racist rant using the "n" word?

Nope. One of the panelists on "21 This Week" had volunteered that Mary Cheney, the Vice President's daughter who has come out of the closet, would not want the federal government interfering in her life. Smith interrupted: "That's fine, that's fine. But that doesn't mean that the government should proffer a special place of entitlement within the laws of the United States for persons of sexual deviancy."

Parsing that statement, what was Smith saying? That the feds should not intrude into private lives, but neither should the feds grant special privileges to homosexuals. Smith was also saying that, in his view, homosexuals are "persons of sexual deviancy." In short, Smith was saying what most Americans have always thought.

But at the next meeting of the Metro board, he was confronted by D.C. member James Graham, a homosexual activist, who demanded that Smith recant and apologize, or be fired by the governor.

Smith held his ground. "Homosexual behavior, in my view, is deviant," Smith said. "I'm a Roman Catholic."

He added, "The comments I make outside of my (Metro board job) I'm entitled to make." Moreover, said Smith, these were personal beliefs that have "nothing to do with running trains and buses, and have not affected my actions or decisions on the board."

Five hours later, Gov. Ehrlich, in a tight re-election race, fired Smith. The episode is instructive for what it says about the correlation of forces in America's religious war.

To save himself, Ehrlich threw Smith to the wolves. He declined to defend traditional Christian teaching on homosexuality -- i.e., that it is unnatural and immoral, ruinous to body and soul alike. Ehrlich sacrificed one of his own to appease the homosexuals and their media auxiliary, rather than defy their moral authority.

Smith was fired by a Republican governor for standing by a truth rooted in 2,000 years of Catholic doctrine, Natural Law, the Torah, the Islamic faith, the teachings of every Christian denomination and the laws of every Western nation up to the late 20th century. One has yet to hear a word in defense of this faithful son from the Catholic hierarchy of the Washington area.

As for homosexuality, where it has been prevalent -- in the late Roman Empire, Weimar Germany, San Francisco -- it has been regarded as a mark of and a metaphor for moral decadence and societal decline.

But the bottom line is this: What is the truth? Is homosexuality moral or immoral, natural or unnatural, normal and healthy or deviant and destructive behavior?

In 1983, when the AIDS epidemic first broke onto the national scene, this writer wrote in a column predicting scores of thousands could perish: "The poor homosexuals. They have declared war against nature, and nature is exacting an awful retribution."

This sentence restated the Natural Law teaching of Thomas Aquinas. Homosexuality is against nature, contra naturam. It also said what was, by then, obvious to all. Acts that cannot be described in this publication were transmitting a dread and deadly disease that was killing homosexuals in the hundreds, and would soon kill them in the scores of thousands.

Indeed, a subsequent clamor by homosexuals for a mass government education program on the use of condoms suggested they knew exactly how and why the disease was spreading.

But in a May 28 column, Nicholas Kristof of The New York Times accused this writer, Ronald Reagan and the Rev. Jerry Falwell of "behaving more immorally" in the 1980s than the clientele of "the San Francisco bathhouses." It was our "indifference to the suffering of gays," said Kristof, that "allowed the epidemic to spread."

Not a word of reproof -- or even of recognition -- may be found in Kristof's column against those who actually spread the disease that has now killed millions. Nick knows his readers.

What does all of this tell us? Our society is being marinated in lies -- the lie that homosexuality is a natural, normal and healthy lifestyle; the lie that those who think otherwise are all hateful bigots; the lie that the diseases that afflict the homosexual community are the fault of an uncaring society.

Humankind cannot stand too much truth, said T.S. Eliot.

In the matter of Robert Smith, there was indeed intolerance: a savage intolerance of one man with the courage to declare Christian truths in the face of the fabricated and fake faith that has become the established religion of America's secular elite.

Mr. Buchanan is a nationally syndicated columnist and author of "The Death of the West," "The Great Betrayal," "A Republic, Not an Empire" and "Where the Right Went Wrong."


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Tony , you're back emoticon What has happened - the long silence and all ?
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AdMajoremDeiGloriam wrote:

Tony , you're back emoticon What has happened - the long silence and all ?



Hi AD. Between work, and commission work, I have been real busy.



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Tony - I say an interview on TV this week with the new Presiding Bishop of the U.S. Episcopal Church, a woman. They were discussing the Episcopal Church's refusal to go along with the request of the worldwide Anglican Communion, to cease installing gay bishops. She was asked if she believed if it was a sin to be a homosexual. She replied that she did not believe that it was wrong and that Jesus preached inclusiveness and not exclusiveness. While the question did NOT specify the discrepancy between homosexual feelings and homosexual actions, there was no doubt in my mind that she was defending the claim of some that homosexual actions are not sin, when done in the context of a loving relationship.

I probably mentioned this before on my EENS thread, but i will say it here again. My cousin was born and raised Catholic, but left the Catholic Church about 25 years ago to join the Episcopal Church, the Church of his maternal grandparents. I do not talk to him too much, maybe once a year on the phone at Christmas. I wonder what he thinks of his new Church now and the new Presiding Bishop? - Nord

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"Presiding Bishop of the U.S. Episcopal Church, a woman."

PB Schori was influenced by her mentor , the infamous Bishop Spong . It will be interesting to see how the Global South will simply replace ECUSA inside the USA - since ECUSA is now in a state of gnostic heresy .
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Jesus preached inclusiveness and not exclusiveness.



I agree. However, Someone should have asked her though what her response had to do with Sin.


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While the question did NOT specify the discrepancy between homosexual feelings and homosexual actions, there was no doubt in my mind that she was defending the claim of some that homosexual actions are not sin, when done in the context of a loving relationship.



These people are far from God Nord. Attempting to 'correct' God and His Word. These people feel the need to defend homsexuality, and do so by circumventing Gods Word. Telling us what God really meant. Homosexuality has been condemned not only by God, but by the Church for over 2000 years. Suddenly, someone is going to come along and tell us just how wrong we are?

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I wonder what he thinks of his new Church now and the new Presiding Bishop?



Indeed.



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I have stated time and time again to people that I have no problem with Homosexuals. I have had many friends who were gay/lesbian/bi, and I still love them just the same.
They are my friends, after all.

There is homosexuality in nature as well as in our history, fairly far back if you follow it. And hey, look at football? j/k

I can even accept the fact that God and Christ would forgive them that, and that, indeed, Gays can go to heaven, and be active Christians. Christ said he was there to save the sinners, as they are the ones that need him, right?

However, looking at the way the world works, with the need to procreate (or even the ability) teamed with the word of God implies an overall problem with it... as a result, I can never agree with homosexuality, and think it is morally wrong.

This said, it is kind of a travesty that people can stand up and advocate being a vegetarian, and people aplaud them, yay, even when a person stands up and says 'don't smoke', they applaud them, but the moment someone states that a specialized group should not be doing what they are doing, all hell breaks loose. So much for freedom of speech, and freedom of Religion.

As the man said, the view didn't effect his job, and he never said he was going to go out Gay hunting...

Go figure.
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Lauchlin, the Catholic view onhomosexuality is often misunderstood. God loves the homosexual man. It is the sin that God can not stand. The Catholic church does not preach condemnation of homosexuals. Gods love is greater than any sin we can commit, and his mercy is limitless.

There is no sin in being homosexual. However, one commits sin once thay act upon these feelings. Anyone who seeks reconciliation with God and repents can find God's Mercy.

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I am going to get technical here and say even the term, homosexual, is deceptive. We are created male and female. Some may the burden of same sex attraction to deal with but that does not make them something different than men or women.



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Very good point Michael.

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